tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21780743.post9218975727944192760..comments2023-10-20T14:42:07.844+00:00Comments on Louise Baldock: Letter to the echo - LibDem leader - attack on "vermin" Liverpool childrenLouise Baldockhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08430662342062143143noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21780743.post-41933207832982465912007-11-17T18:40:00.000+00:002007-11-17T18:40:00.000+00:00Vermin, or feral, it doesn't say much for the rega...Vermin, or feral, it doesn't say much for the regard that is given to the children of our city. I work for a theatre company, our youth theatre gave a moving performance on Wednesday night of some work they have been producing around the attitudes they face within the city. Only our local Labour councillor bothered to turn up, our Lib Dems were undoubtably too busy having tea and being outraged about Mathew Street to bother coming to see what their vermin constituents had to say for themselves.<BR/>When you continually cut youth funding, when you build upon safe spaces to play and leave open areas to the mercy of drug users making them unsafe places to go, when you call those youngsters who are trying their best "vermin" - what are you telling them? A disgusting letter from a man who should spend more time leading and less time bitching.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05500991949328203401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21780743.post-35761937963714589862007-11-15T00:59:00.000+00:002007-11-15T00:59:00.000+00:00Well the Echo didnt publish my letter but it did p...Well the Echo didnt publish my letter but it did publish two others, one of which was very similar to mine, so the point has been made anyway. <BR/><BR/>This entry has attracted some very interesting comments which I am pleased about.<BR/><BR/>We really have got to get right the way we relate to young people and the services we provide for them and the support we give to them and their parents. <BR/><BR/>Their abject neglect in this city is a disgrace and has led directly in my view to some of the problems we are now facing with problem behaviour.<BR/><BR/>Whatever the LibDems say, we cannot leave the nurturing, welfare and development of our children and young people entirely to their parents.Louise Baldockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430662342062143143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21780743.post-62546365151281745472007-11-13T11:16:00.000+00:002007-11-13T11:16:00.000+00:00The Lib Dems keep building on our parks and playin...The Lib Dems keep building on our parks and playing fields, which probably doesn't help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21780743.post-43902573483634522352007-11-07T12:24:00.000+00:002007-11-07T12:24:00.000+00:00I don't follow what Treb is saying! Who else can ...I don't follow what Treb is saying! Who else can you blame for lack of discipline in the home but those who are in it? The Government's fault? I don't think so.<BR/>As you say Louise, most parents want to do a good job and some don't know how and want to be friends with their children rather than parents. Boundaries have to be set and kids have to have something to do. You only have to watch the latest edition of Brat Camp to see how it starts and it most certainly isn't all kids from financially deprived backgrounds. Yes hanging around on street corners is something we all used to do but we weren't being sold drink or other mind altering substances. But to go to the press and call them vermin is no way to behave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21780743.post-26068053340740534402007-11-05T22:11:00.000+00:002007-11-05T22:11:00.000+00:00Can't believe the comment from Treb, it's now the ...Can't believe the comment from Treb, it's now the responsibility of government to instill discipline into kids?! Surely that would be a case of the government poking their noses into family life and taking the nanny state idea to a new level - the Supernanny State perhaps? <BR/><BR/>A lot of it is about parenting IMO, or sadly at times lack of it - but lack of youth work doesn't help at all as it means not only less to do, but also less interaction with potentially good role models and less opportunity to find out what is or isn't acceptable behaviour in society. <BR/><BR/>Telling teenagers that they're vermin is one of the worst things you can do, surely - it's not going to inspire them to better themselves now.... bemoaning the wasted potential there and offering ways to fulfil it would be a better option, but that costs money that needs to be used to dig up even more roads!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21780743.post-3140371820972219722007-11-05T21:31:00.000+00:002007-11-05T21:31:00.000+00:00- and a closet Tory to boot. Nice to see my old fl...- and a closet Tory to boot. <BR/><BR/>Nice to see my old flames can't keep away though xxLouise Baldockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430662342062143143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21780743.post-14354859768923832282007-11-05T08:51:00.000+00:002007-11-05T08:51:00.000+00:00Well you would say that wouldnt you, you are a pol...Well you would say that wouldnt you, you are a policeman!Louise Baldockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430662342062143143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21780743.post-74416341091049510112007-11-05T00:05:00.000+00:002007-11-05T00:05:00.000+00:00Louise, you and I both grew up in an age when we u...Louise, you and I both grew up in an age when we used to hang around on street corners. What we didnt do was abuse or attack other people. The simple problem is a lack of discipline. Nothing else, nothing more, and that comes from poor management by the government...regardless of whom is in power. To blame other parties for lack of discipline in the home exposes Labour for what they are and what they lack...I know you dont want to hear that but your view is biased and always has been.......Trebtrebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05609487025736956501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21780743.post-63870835785254762922007-11-04T22:02:00.000+00:002007-11-04T22:02:00.000+00:00feral might have been more appropriate, ie they on...feral might have been more appropriate, ie they once were tame and are now not but can be tamed again<BR/><BR/>As an ex youth worker who worked many years in Knowsley where the current Liverpool officers cut thier teeth and set the "gold" standard (David McElhinney,et al) by ripping the guts out of the statutory youth service and then set to work doing the same in Liverpool, the cycle time for the effects of cut backs or "rationalising" youth provision is about five to ten years from when the fundng is cut to when the shit hits the fan we can quite easily determine who is to blame for the "anti social" activities in the city then cant we. <BR/><BR/>If you want to see something really sad go out on Kensington and Prescot Road on a Friday night and see the kids dressed up to the nines lookign for somewhere to go, and as there's eff all to do this siutation naturally ends up in them getting bladdered and then up to no good.<BR/><BR/>The Government needs to actually define what statutory youth provision is as it is still left to local authorities to decide to this and usually this means the least they can get away with. <BR/><BR/>Connexions to some extent was meant to set a national standard for provision but they seem to spend more money on websites leafelts and offices in the Tea Factory than engaging young people in gainful activity.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the new Neighbourhood centre in kensington could have a a state of the art youth centre in it, hang on me sides are splitting.<BR/><BR/>Giving the vote to 11 year olds would sort the problem out really quickly....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21780743.post-68686784750261843372007-11-04T20:01:00.000+00:002007-11-04T20:01:00.000+00:00I know lots of Liberal Democrats read this blog. Y...I know lots of Liberal Democrats read this blog. You cannot possibly be happy with this. <BR/><BR/>Many of you I know would agree with me that the city should be doing a lot more to provide diversionary activity. Many of you work with young people, many of you know how hard some parents find parenting. We have all had people in our surgeries wringing their hands, desperate for help to manage their kids. <BR/><BR/>I had thought about providing a list of LibDem councillors that I would imagine would be as appalled as I am, but I think that would be too difficult for you personally and so counter-productive so I have decided not to.<BR/><BR/>Equally, I would not expect any of you to comment here or tell me how you intend to take this forward within your group but I appeal to you to tackle your leadership about this. <BR/><BR/>We have got to support our kids and our parents and we have got to stop referring to our kids as "vermin", or indeed "feral" and neither do they deserve a "good kicking" which was the observation of one of your group in a public meeting in Kensington recently.<BR/><BR/>I must believe that some of you are "liberal" and I call on you to root out this illiberal attitude within your party before the city is damaged beyond repair.Louise Baldockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430662342062143143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21780743.post-66941792522510324282007-11-04T19:57:00.000+00:002007-11-04T19:57:00.000+00:00"Hear hear"And a "hear hear" again from the better..."Hear hear"<BR/><BR/>And a "hear hear" again from the better half!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com